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[I] MS Word [message #288782]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 19:22

Stacie Hanes

I need some help.

Usually, I can manipulate Word very well. (Forget telling me why I should
switch to something else. I have reasons for using Word.)

Up on top, the menu bar that usually reads:

File Edit View Insert Format Tools Etcetera

Has lost the "File" option. File has disappeared, and no matter how I move
the toolbars around, it won't come back. I've looked in the customize your
toolbar options...

Does anyone know where it wentand how to get it back?

--
4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse, AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons,
Bondage-happy predator, Speaker-To-Students,
SadoMangoist, AFPMistress to peachy, 8'FED's AFPDeliciousSnack, AFPFiance to
A. Nevill , Graycat's Guttersnipe

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288785 ]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 19:38

CeltiKaos

On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 17:22:15 +0000, Anastasia wrote:

> Does anyone know where it wentand how to get it back?

I just Googled for this and found out that in MS Word 2007 the File Menu
is *supposed* to be gone. Damned if I know why, and I know it doesn't
help you I'm sorry (unless you just upgraded to 2007?). It does point to
not buying 2007 though :)
--
Kind regards,

Julian Hall
"I'm only on the planet because I missed the bus home"

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288787 ]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 19:59

Stacie Hanes

CeltiKaos wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 17:22:15 +0000, Anastasia wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know where it wentand how to get it back?
>
> I just Googled for this and found out that in MS Word 2007 the File
> Menu is *supposed* to be gone. Damned if I know why, and I know it
> doesn't help you I'm sorry (unless you just upgraded to 2007?). It
> does point to not buying 2007 though :)

Well, drat. Maybe there was an update that I accidentally inflicted, or
something. I just don't remember doing it.

I don't want File gone! I've been functioning without it, but there are some
things in there I use, damn them. "Properties" being the most useful,
although I adapted by putting the wordcount feature on the toolbar itself.

Thanks!

But if anyone else figures out how to get it back, please tell.

--
4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse, AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons,
Bondage-happy predator, Speaker-To-Students, SadoMangoist,
AFPMistress to peachy, 8'FED's AFPDeliciousSnack, AFPFiance to A.
Nevill , Graycat's Guttersnipe

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288794 ]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 20:52

ascii158

Anastasia wrote:
> CeltiKaos wrote:
>> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 17:22:15 +0000, Anastasia wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know where it wentand how to get it back?
>> I just Googled for this and found out that in MS Word 2007 the File
>> Menu is *supposed* to be gone.
>
> Well, drat. Maybe there was an update that I accidentally inflicted, or
> something. I just don't remember doing it.

Erm, 2007 is still Beta. There is no way to install this without knowing it,

> I don't want File gone! I've been functioning without it, but there are some
> things in there I use, damn them. "Properties" being the most useful,
> although I adapted by putting the wordcount feature on the toolbar itself.

I am quite sure, that you can customize your menu-bar. But I don't know
how ;-). You could try looking under Tools->Customize (or something, I
don't have a Word here at the moment). There is (IIRC) a register with
"Menu" on it. There you should be able to reinsert your File-Menu.

Or you could just try and delete^Wrename your normal.dot. But only if
you do not have any custom macros andsuch.

Cheers,
--
Philipp Tölke
PGP 0x96A1FE7A

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288796 ]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 21:01

Brenda

Anastasia said:

> I need some help.

No problem!

>
> Usually, I can manipulate Word very well. (Forget telling me why I should
> switch to something else. I have reasons for using Word.)

Oh. Okay. I thought you wanted help, but perhaps you just want sympathy. As
Sir Humphrey Appleby didn't quite say to Jim Hacker, "Just remember,
Minister, it's *your* word processor and *you* wanted it..."

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288799 ]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 21:10

Stacie Hanes

Philipp Tölke wrote:

> Or you could just try and delete^Wrename your normal.dot. But only
> if
> you do not have any custom macros andsuch.

Ah. This is what I want to do. Word is notorious for its
ease-of-mangling-the-normal-template.

How do I do that? I would ideally like my "normal" to be 1" margins all
around, 12 pt Arial double spaced.

I don't know how without looking it up, which I can do, but is there an easy
way you can explain here, or are there pitfalls that will mean reinstalling
Word and gods know what else?

I appreciate it.

--
4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse, AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons,
Bondage-happy predator, Speaker-To-Students, SadoMangoist,
AFPMistress to peachy, 8'FED's AFPDeliciousSnack, AFPFiance to A.
Nevill , Graycat's Guttersnipe

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288800 ]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 21:14

Stacie Hanes

Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Anastasia said:
>
>> I need some help.
>
> No problem!
>
>>
>> Usually, I can manipulate Word very well. (Forget telling me why I
>> should switch to something else. I have reasons for using Word.)
>
> Oh. Okay. I thought you wanted help, but perhaps you just want
> sympathy. As Sir Humphrey Appleby didn't quite say to Jim Hacker,
> "Just remember, Minister, it's *your* word processor and *you*
> wanted it..."

Sympathy, AND help. Don't make me smack you, Richard. ;-)

Universities have made blood-pacts with software AND hardware companies.
This reflects the current state of the American university; in my last PhD
course, we talked of "this term paper sponsored by Pepsi" and we were
kidding, but only just.

Branding has crept in by way of the scoreboards at athletic events, into the
computer labs, and the dining halls.

I don't like it, but the universities are starving for money--at least, some
parts of it. The administration seems to draw its salary regardless of how
much the NTT and adjunct faculty get paid.

--
4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse, AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons,
Bondage-happy predator, Speaker-To-Students, SadoMangoist,
AFPMistress to peachy, 8'FED's AFPDeliciousSnack, AFPFiance to A.
Nevill , Graycat's Guttersnipe

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288814 ]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 21:56

Brenda

Anastasia said:

> Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> Anastasia said:
>>
>>> I need some help.
>>
>> No problem!
>>
>>>
>>> Usually, I can manipulate Word very well. (Forget telling me why I
>>> should switch to something else. I have reasons for using Word.)
>>
>> Oh. Okay. I thought you wanted help, but perhaps you just want
>> sympathy. As Sir Humphrey Appleby didn't quite say to Jim Hacker,
>> "Just remember, Minister, it's *your* word processor and *you*
>> wanted it..."
>
> Sympathy, AND help. Don't make me smack you, Richard. ;-)

FWIW I did take the trouble to do a little research on your behalf, but I
can't reproduce this behaviour on the Win32 machine, at least not without
disrupting a game which, according to my children, has huge significance
for the future of world peace. And I wouldn't want to mess with the future
of world peace.

Anyway, using Google I found the following relevant Q/A on a Web forum, but
I make no guarantees about whether it's good advice:

< http://www.phpbuilder.com/board/archive/index.php/t-10160796 .html>

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288842 ]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 23:41

Rocky Frisco

Anastasia wrote:

> I need some help.
>
> Usually, I can manipulate Word very well. (Forget telling me why I should
> switch to something else. I have reasons for using Word.)
>
> Up on top, the menu bar that usually reads:
>
> File Edit View Insert Format Tools Etcetera
>
>
> Has lost the "File" option. File has disappeared, and no matter how I move
> the toolbars around, it won't come back. I've looked in the customize your
> toolbar options...
>
> Does anyone know where it wentand how to get it back?

(dumb guess mode)

In some of the programs I use, some menu options are only available with
a document selected or similar folderol. I know less than nothing about
Word, being a WP geek, but it's a thought.

-Rocky
--
O'Toole's Corollary: Murphy was an optimist.

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288843 ]

Sa, 17 Juni 2006 23:49

ascii158

Anastasia wrote:
> Philipp Tölke wrote:
>> Or you could just try and delete^Wrename your normal.dot. But only
>> if you do not have any custom macros andsuch.
>
> Ah. This is what I want to do. Word is notorious for its
> ease-of-mangling-the-normal-template.
>
> How do I do that? I would ideally like my "normal" to be 1" margins all
> around, 12 pt Arial double spaced.

Well, the first step would be to locate the normal.dot. No idea where
that is stored. Most likely in your home-Directory. Because I never used
a non-German copy of Windows I have to guess a bit: "Documents and
Settings\Anastasia\Local Settings\Application
Data\MSOffice\Word\Normal.dot" or something like that. [WinKey]+[F] is
your friend ;-).

The you would rename that file to "normal.bak". Or "normal.anastasia".
Or something like that.

Then you would startup word. And if everything went well, there will be
a File menu.

Then you set margins and fonts and safe that document as normal.dot at
the right location. Then everything /should/ work.

> I don't know how without looking it up, which I can do, but is there an easy
> way you can explain here, or are there pitfalls that will mean reinstalling
> Word and gods know what else?

That is a risk you have to take. I think I reinstall Word once a month
at work.

HTH, cheers & good night,
--
Philipp Tölke
PGP 0x96A1FE7A

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288864 ]

So, 18 Juni 2006 00:42

Stacie Hanes

Richard Heathfield wrote:
> Anastasia said:

>> Sympathy, AND help. Don't make me smack you, Richard. ;-)
>
> FWIW I did take the trouble to do a little research on your behalf,
<Snip>
>
> < http://www.phpbuilder.com/board/archive/index.php/t-10160796 .html>

I think it is, thank you.

--
4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse, AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons,
Bondage-happy predator, Speaker-To-Students, SadoMangoist,
AFPMistress to peachy, 8'FED's AFPDeliciousSnack, AFPFiance to A.
Nevill , Graycat's Guttersnipe

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288879 ]

So, 18 Juni 2006 00:47

raltbos

"Anastasia" <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

> I need some help.
>
> Usually, I can manipulate Word very well. (Forget telling me why I should
> switch to something else. I have reasons for using Word.)
>
> Up on top, the menu bar that usually reads:
>
> File Edit View Insert Format Tools Etcetera
>
> Has lost the "File" option. File has disappeared, and no matter how I move
> the toolbars around, it won't come back. I've looked in the customize your
> toolbar options...
>
> Does anyone know where it wentand how to get it back?

I only have a Dutch version, so these back-translations may be wrong,
but...

Go to the "modify toolbar" dialog. Choose the second tab, called
"Opdrachten" in Dutch, which would probably be "Commands" in English.

You get a number of categories on the left, and you can drag things from
the right panel onto any button or menu bar. It would seem that you
should drag the "File" category from the left panel onto the menu bar,
but no.
Almost at the bottom, next-to-last in my version, is a category called
"Built-in menus". Choose that, and now all those built-in menus appear
in the right-hand panel as well as in the left one. _Now_ you can drag
the File menu from the right panel, not from the left one, onto the menu
bar.

If that doesn't work, you have a different version from Word than mine.

Richard

Re: [I] MS Word [message #288885 ]

So, 18 Juni 2006 00:58

Stacie Hanes

Richard Bos wrote:

> If that doesn't work, you have a different version from Word than
> mine.

It didn't, but nonetheless helped me solve the problem. It was the area I
had been messing with, trying to fix it. Your suggestions had me looking for
the built-in menu optoin, which I don't have. However, in the toolbar tab of
the same dialogue, there's a list with checkboxes. I highlighted "menu bar",
and a "Reset" button came online, from being greyed out.

I rest, it saved the changes to normal.dot, and my file menu came back.

Big hug!

Thanks, Richard and everyone else. That has been bugging me for a week, at
least.

--
4th swordswoman of the afpocalypse, AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons,
Bondage-happy predator, Speaker-To-Students, SadoMangoist,
AFPMistress to peachy, 8'FED's AFPDeliciousSnack, AFPFiance to A.
Nevill , Graycat's Guttersnipe

Re: [I] MS Word [message #289207 ]

So, 18 Juni 2006 22:29

Hendrik Schober

Anastasia <house_damodred [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> I need some help.
>
> Usually, I can manipulate Word very well. (Forget telling me why I should
> switch to something else. I have reasons for using Word.)
>
> Up on top, the menu bar that usually reads:
>
> File Edit View Insert Format Tools Etcetera
>
>
> Has lost the "File" option. File has disappeared, and no matter how I move
> the toolbars around, it won't come back. I've looked in the customize your
> toolbar options...
>
> Does anyone know where it wentand how to get it back?

It would have been helpful to know which version of
Word you're using.

Schobi
(still sticking to Word95)

--
SpamTrap [at] gmx.de is never read
I'm Schobi at suespammers dot org

"The sarcasm is mightier than the sword."
Eric Jarvis

Re: [I] MS Word [message #289264 ]

Mo, 19 Juni 2006 05:01

Flesh-eating Dragon

Philipp Tölke wrote:

> I am quite sure, that you can customize your menu-bar.

I have Word 2002, running on XP, and the menu and toolbar
customisation is a candidate for the most buggy feature I have ever
encountered in a Microsoft product (yes, really). You change one thing
in the menu or toolbars, and half the time Word will randomly change
(probably delete) something else. I learned very early on that you
always back up normal.dot after successfully making any change at all.

That said, my normal.dot is extensively customised, and it could be a
lot of fun for someone else with a version of Word in which templates
are compatible with those of Word 2002 to try mine out for a drive.

Adrian.

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